Certified LeSS Practitioner — Why three days?

I often get asked: Why does the certified LeSS Practitioner training require 3 days?
I thought it would be beneficial to write a short post explaining.

I understand the question.

I really do. 3 days for a training is not very common for these types of trainings, partly because during the last years, the Scrum Alliance had set the standard for scrum related trainings for 2 days (See CSM , CSPO).

3 days is more than half a week, which means that we will be gone from the office for most of the week, for some companies & people this seems as a lot and is very difficult to cope with (often due to the large amount of meetings that will be skipped). Still, I think there are good reasons for the 3 days, and I will list and explain them now.

3 days is not so much

It really isn’t.
If we compare it to other trainings besides what the Scrum Alliance has to offer, we find that:

  • PMP Training — 5–8 days
  • TDD training — 3–5 days
  • Cynefin framework training — 2–4 days
  • Agile team work — 2–4 days
  • Agile retrospectives — 1–2 days
  • Testing automation training — 5–8 days
  • Unit testing (Beginner Level) — 1–3 day

So while we got used to a 2-day training as very common for “agile related” stuff, it is actually not very common in other areas so there is no need to feel that something is “wrong” or “strange” about 3 days

Content & Learning pace — The tradeoff.

As an experienced trainer, I can assure you that almost any training can be designed and adapted to different timeboxes. And so can the LeSS training.
However, this is a certified LeSS practitioner training, and as such we aspire that the participants of the training will leave it with a good and deep understanding of the framework after they have invested enough time studying it, performing exercises, asking and answering questions, and embedding the basic rules and principles, for this we don’t want to go too fast (or too slow).
When you participate in the training you will understand this better…


Why 3 days in a row? In a “standard” LeSS training I reserve some time at the start of the 2nd and 3rd day for review of the last day to review the previous days and make sure things are clear. Additionally, there is the ability to “pause” if we run out of time and continue the next day.
With 3 days split over 3 weeks I fear that some of the topics will be forgotten, some of the questions will be left unanswered and some of the “glue” between the modules will remain vague.
So there is indeed value in doing the training days “back to back”.

Proof of intent

Adopting the LeSS framework requires a large organizational investment, it will require a deep understanding of systems thinking and investment in education and learning, when an organization or an employee thinks that 3 days is a too large investment in order to learn how to help the organization become more agile, I suspect that the chances of this organization actually succeeding to adopt the LeSS framework are not very high.

The Experiment

While writing this blog post I decided that I am going to run an experiment, I will open a certified LeSS practitioner training that will still be 3 days, and it will be done in a way that the days will be split across 3 weeks, to validate that it is indeed more valuable to our customers (that is you), the price for this training price will be higher than the “standard” certified LeSS practitioner training.

If you are interested in joining either the standard 3 days training or the experiment of the 3 days split across 3 weeks, please drop us a line at info@practical-agile.com or contact me.

Would love to hear \ read your thoughts and comments on this.

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